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United States of Aztlan by YNot1989 United States of Aztlan by YNot1989

With the mass deportations of the 2080s and the military patrols of their borders that were put in place during the Second Mexican-American War, animosity between the majority Mexican Southwestern States and the rest of the country began to grow and fester during the interwar period of the early 22nd Century. The Mexicanos Libres party formed out of this animosity and won majorities in most state governments in the region, while controlling the majority of congressional and senate seats from the Southwest as well. The MLP was normally seen as a regionalist party, not advocating secession, rather a degree of separation. A radical offshoot of the party was the Aztlan Autonomous Movement, which did seek to break off from the United States and form either an independent nation or rejoin Mexico. It was this movement that led the call for independence when Lionel Halvidar was elected President in 2132. The state governments of Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, and California,  all with overwhelming majorities of citizens with Mexican ancestry, all voted to secede from the Union within months of Halvidar's election, forming the United States of Aztlan. The new country quickly established a presidency under the leadership of former Vice President of the United States, David Castillo, and broke up a number of larger states into smaller states that could be more fairly represented by the new government in Santa Fe.

The rebel states claimed that they owned all bases and other federal buildings in the Southwest, and ordered that US forces on the Mexican border be expelled from their territory. On 2 February 2133 the secessionists attacked the garrison at Camp Navajo in Arizona. Union forces from the border were diverted to defend the base, but after a 9 hour fight, the rebels accepted the surrender of the base commander, and the border guards were captured or picked off before they could return to their own garrisons. Following the attack, President Halvidar nationalized the national guards of the Union states, and called for a buildup of domestic military forces. Shortly after this call to arms was issued, three more southwestern states, and Panama joined with Aztlan instead of supplying forces to fight the rebels. The US Navy then organized a blockade of the California and Texas coastlines, and issued an ultimatum to Mexico and the Latin American Union, that any effort to support the rebels would be considered an act of war.

Despite this early showing of support, Aztlan quickly faced setbacks along its periphery. The National Guards of Oklahoma and Colorado remained loyal to the Union, while Eastern Texas subsequently seceded from Texas, joining the Union as the two new states of Brazos and Jacinto. By the end of 2133, Colorado and Oklahoma were effectively under Union control, with Aztlan state governments in exile. The US invaded the rebel states on February 22, 2133, moving through Northern California, Brazos, and Oklahoma. The US saw victories in the Aztlan state of Shasta and Northern Nevada rather quickly, retaking critical military targets, while forces in Texas found the Aztlan rebels more willing to fight than they'd expected. US Space Marines were deployed to support the Army in Texas and California and with momentum in New Mexico stalled, President Halvidar approved the use of orbital weapons on certain Aztlan targets. By the end of 2133, the rebel forces had been forced to relocate their capitol to Phoenix, Arizona. Utah, an autonomous state in Aztlan, went so far as to sue for a separate peace on May 11, 2134, allowing the US to surround the remaining Aztlan forces. 

Mexico initially attempted to remain neutral, but militant elements within the Mexican government pushed to engage the US via proxy conflicts around the planet, to give the rebels a fighting chance. By the end of 2134 the US had successfully recaptured much of Texas and California, and were nearing the Aztlan capital in Phoenix. The conflict now threatened to spill across the border into Mexico, as northern Mexicans, many of whom were once US citizens, began actively supporting Aztlan's bid for independence. In some cases, Mexican volunteer regiments joined up with the Aztlan Army. At this point Deandre Garcia lost her bid for a second term in Mexico, and was replaced by the more radical Edwin Jaso's administration, which began quietly sending arms to the rebels. The Jaso administration began directly engaging the US across the planet, while supporting the Azlan rebels with weapons and intelligence. Some of the more radical rebels conducted public executions of all those who spoke out against the rebellion or stood in their war. This ultimately led to greater escalation in the conflict, as US forces were recalled from engagements in Africa and Eurasia to put down the rebellion at home.

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TheTexasRanger Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2015
Hey I wanted to see how well of a job making flags i could do, so i made some flag ideas for some of the Aztlan states. If you like any of them you can use them if you like. My personal favorite is Mojaves flag and Diablo, Pimeria and Shasta were the ones that frustrated me the most making.
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Interesting. I may just use some of those. I haven't even made a page for Aztlan yet.
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TheTexasRanger Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2015
Thank you.
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ElSqiubbonator Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2015
If the US wins the war, will these states get absorbed back in, sort of like what happened to the Confederate states after the Civil War?
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Jan 30, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Reconstruction would have to happen, yes.
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How many people are in Utah? I'm guessing Salt Lake City has gotten pretty big since now.
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Utah's population has grown quite a bit, and dropped of during Mars colonization. Its at about 6 million now.
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TheTexasRanger Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2014
So... If the US wins will they reunite the states that were split up by the Aztlan government?
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TheTexasRanger Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2014
Ok i was just wondering, I like how you divided up Texas.
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Actually, the splitting up of Texas and California are considered to be fairly reasonable demands that the Mexijanos Libres party had been making for decades prior to the war, so those states will remain partitioned to ease the transition.
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Beastboss Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
How do you suppose America fixes it's culture problem between Latin American Immigrants who refuse to adapt to American standards and American citizens who do so that this future can be avoided
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
A much more aggressive immigration policy that incentivises, failing that forces, people to relocate across the whole of the country rather than stay concentrated in one region. But no one will go for it because its functionally an ethnically bias law. It will take a crises for people to make the hard choices.
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Beastboss Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
I like that idea but I agree the current administration would never agree to something like that
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TheTexasRanger Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2014
I like your map but is Lubbock the state capital of Llano
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Sure.
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JGBArtwork Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2014
How do some of the white people feel about living in Aztlan, i'm talking about average middle class white people who don't want to join Mexico? 
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well non-Mexicans in Aztlan were far less in favor of secession or annexation than Mexican-Americans in Aztlan, but that's like asking how people in the Confederacy who weren't in favor of secession felt about the whole thing: they're such a small minority that their story isn't really relevant to the situation. 
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RogueLeader1000 Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2014
There are that few Anglos and other races left here?
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's the 22nd Century, and after five decades of incentivized immigration policies and over a century of genetic engineering and good old fashioned coupling, self-identified Caucasians are only about 11% of the population. Most people are multiracial, with the second largest demographic being Hispanic/Latino, and in the Southwest they are the largest demographic by far. In the rest of the country its a much  more pluralist society.
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Satoshi-Vampire190 Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014
This speculation is interesting!!!! And in a name of my compatriots: This will be the revenge or...the price of many hurt in my people...and many Latin America people. I do not enter in themes of migrants and immigrants in this time. But...what  is  the reason, for to produce this phenomenon? It´s not motive in this ocation.

For this scenario...What I can say: The Mexican state, illustrated here; is most stronge, organized, and stable. Many different of the corrupted, poor, divided, and pessimists. The mexican state illustrate here, is not the mexican state today. "logical"  But  is wonderful  most incredible...upper full to vision closed of many people compatriots,  so I can know...

The second war Mexican-American must be maturing to Mexico general mentality. This   wonder I will feel great. Imagine the live in this  time  is incredible...and I hope  will be most fair  with the natives Mexican, farmers, pastors and all the people in my cuntrie  what today suffer, injustice  and  discrimination in there in our land. Mmmm Because, the finance to milicians and the operations in a new countrie; borned in old land of a nation how USA, Is significative.

For other side; Aztlan, (The name of the City Legendary where the Aztec culture born The "Cuna" of Aztec culture), incluide in this territory, a big portion of  all west coast; All California state. This  is  a big lost of territory, strategic power, political influence, and the most important in my opinion the Economic factor. The agriculture in this  state is  one of the most prosper of  every USA, do not  forgot the forests, and the minerals  resources in all the south-west, a long the limits whit Mexico, the part of Texas under influence of Aztlan, there are citys  and potitions importans for the nation of  the bars and  stars.

Most important now. The multiples military bases, and instalations and other proyects of  this nature, after I watch the map, is  increidible  the little answer of the state American for not do it nothing for preserve this big portion of territory lost. But...how I say in the begin ot this comment;

Is  the price for the  discriminations zelop for people of Latin America and in general everyting world. Mmmm I need read more about yours  maps  and descitions  of  alternatives historys  and posibilities scenarios.

Greath work!!! .
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Don't take this the wrong way, but I can barely make out what you're trying to say or ask, so I'll try to answer as best I can.

The immigration boom in the Southwest was partly the result of a series of reforms enacted by the US government in the early 2030s to streamline the immigration process to compensate for a labor shortage brought on by low birthrates in the US and the retirement of the Baby Boomer generation (which put additional stress on the economy by increasing the demand for health and elderly care services).

Mexico has grown in power over the last century of this timeline, partly thanks to its proximity to the US, but also due to its relationship with Latin America and access to both major oceans. Improvements to the economy and military responsibilities to South American necessitated political reforms, much as the US experienced in the 1940s. 
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microwavedreams Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2014
What has been the most recent significant advance in warfare? Have there been any significant new game changers since ww3? 
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Easily the greatest advancement in warfare has been the rise of the armored infantry unit. By 2132, the major militaries of the world have infantry soldiers who are essentially "an F-16 on legs." Space warfare was huge, drones were huge, energy and kinetic weapons were huge, but nothing was as much of a game changer as the armored infantryman. The era of the professional soldier has returned. Honestly though, they haven't seen any real "game changers," in terms of military technology since WWIII, just steady advancements.
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microwavedreams Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2014
So are we talking Crysis type suit? Or 20 ft mech with a guy inside? 
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Closer to a Crysis type suit, throw in hard armor to survive energy weapons, a myriad of armaments built right into the suit, jump jets and in some cases full flight systems, and a microfusion power plant, and you have a light and lethal killing machine with command and control capabilities over a personal network of drones.
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microwavedreams Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2014
Awesome! How prevalent are bullets at this point? Or are energy weapons still limited to fairly large arrays too big for a foot soldier to carry?
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Bullet's exist, but magnetic accelerators have replaced them in the military. Energy weapons have been small and light enough for soldiers to carry since the 2070s, the downside to them is that they're more energy intensive and tend to overheat and crash when they're rifle sized, so you only see them as shoulder mounted anti-material units usually. Though a few soldiers carry rifle sized units for taking down drones.
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microwavedreams Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2014
Are there any other potential scenarios for a second American Civil War besides this one? Red states vs Blue states? 
Also, wouldn't a civil war in the US have massive economic repercussions for the whole world including Mexico? 
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well there's always the possibility of a civil war between the American core and the periphery. A Victoria or Seattle based Cascadia or a greater California, but in this timeline the problem really boils down to demographics. Also Mexico's sphere is fairly independent of the US economic structure that's been in place since the end of WWII, so the war doesn't hurt their economy like you'd think.
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HeliosMegistos Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2014
Given that the gradual population changes in the South West may well lead to a Hispanic majority in the future could something somewhat like this happen, more importantly can it be avoided ?
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No. There is no natural land border between the US and Mexico that is a true inhibitor to populations crossing over in droves. With the coming labor shortage this won't even be seen as a problem anymore. The only way to prevent cultural homogenization in the Southwest would be a forced or at least incentive based relocation program designed to move Mexican immigrants more evenly around the country, and non-Mexicans into the South West. But no one is willing to do that, because it is technically ethnic cleansing, and it would be an enormous expense. Like many things it will take a crisis to solve the problem.
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HeliosMegistos Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2014
Israel is potentially facing a similar problem in the next few decades as well isn't it, since the Palestinians have more children then the Israelis do ?

Possibly Europe as well may have a similar problem with Muslim/Arabic populations having more children but that all seems to be tied to that fear monger Eurabia bullshit been spread by some rightwing lunatics like Anders Brevik so I don't exactly believe those sources.
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Actually, Europe has a worse problem in that they can't integrate these new populations nearly as well as the US can (there are a number of complex factors such as overland waterways and contiguous farmland, but let's stick to historical effectiveness for now). I'm actually worried that my map doesn't reflect this well enough, but I'd like to think that the US and Canada would attract the majority of immigrants from these regions during the labor shortage of the 2030s, while Europe would continue to decay.
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TwisterAce Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2014
You know, I think this might be the most realistic scenario for how a Second American Civil War could erupt. I also like the parallels with the first Civil War.

Do the rebels have any weapons of mass destruction, like nukes or access to orbital weaponry?

Considering that Utah was autonomous within Aztlan, is Mormonism still around?
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The only nukes they have are the few in the Enduring Stockpile sites under their control, and they can't be armed without the nuclear football. They don't have any space weapons.

Mormonism is alive and well.
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CheeseburgerTom Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2014
I don't think the Mexican president can serve two terms.  LOL at the state of Diablo.
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Much like the US, the President of Mexico has grown in power as the country became a more dynamic power. They amended their constitution to permit a second term shortly after the Second Mexican-American War
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microwavedreams Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2014
How many people live in Aztlan? And are there any separatist groups in Mexico?
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Aztlan has a population of about 160 million people, depending on if you don't recognize Colorado, Oklahoma, Jacinto and Bravos as Mexican territroy. Mexico has gotten very good at keeping separatists in its own territory under control.
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DrCowAndrewBloodie Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2014  Student Artist
BRAZOS
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Zifker Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2014
The Texans went and got uppity again. Please tell me they won't get to live it down this time?

Also, wouldn't the southwest be as habitable as Crematoria by now, without water aid from the US gov?
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Texas nationalism is long gone by this point, its been replaced by Mexican nationalism. As for the water problem, desalination facilities have made it bearable across the planet.
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minecrafroger Featured By Owner Jul 8, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
wow. the USA is becoming ununited, with it's stars and stripes taring at the seems
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