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Stellar America by YNot1989 Stellar America by YNot1989
First and foremost I would like to thank :iconfreodhoric: for inspiring me to pursue this concept.

The basic concept is that if/when American begins to colonize other worlds, administering them requires a greater decentralization of the federal government on Earth, forming a Four Tier Republic:

1) Federal
2) Planetary (Commonwealth)
3) State
4) Local

Thus we have the first twelve flags of America's 27 Planet Republic, the Commonwealths of the Inner Planets, i.e, planets no more than 20 LY from Earth.

*Earth: Humanity's Cradle World, and the home of the US Capitol. Like most countries it is the single most populated planet by the US.

*Mars: Often called Humanity's Second Home, Mars was the first planet terraformed by humans. It is home to seven US States, and has a society nearly identical to that of Earth.

*Venus: The second world to be terraformed by Humans, Venus is a hot tropical world, with a population residing closer to the poles. Like Mars it is societally identical to Earth.

*Atlantis was the first extrasolar colony of humans, and has a surface 95% covered in water. Its population has become largely defined by its seafaring culture, as most cities are actually built on the water itself for need to conserve land based resources.

*Lewis and Clark: Twin worlds in a single system, These two planets are almost exactly the same in mass and density, with near identical climates. They orbit on opposite ends of a single star, and are populated largely by former Virginians and New Englanders.

*Avalon: A lush and plentiful world, Avalon has become one of the most prosperous colonies of mankind. Its American population is largely from Pacific North West, however some from the Appalachians have also made a home there.

*Plymouth: Founded exclusively by the US, Plymouth is populated almost entirely by New Englanders.

*Omaha: Founded in a Joint American/European Expedition, Omaha was largely established by former military members. Today it is largely known as the primary off-Earth ship and weapons manufacturer and home to the two largest military bases for the EU and the US.

*Lincoln: Founded largely by Midwesterners, Lincoln is a peaceful, scholarly world, defined by great universities and agribusiness.

*Arcadia: Founded by Anglo-Europeans as a farming colony, Arcadia has become the chief US Supplier of high quality wines, beers, Kobe Beef, and Leafy Greens.

*Rhea: One of the few "Earth Twins" to have no intelligent life of its own, Rhea's American Population owe their success to the study of its unique flora and fauna by the hordes of naturalists, geneticists, and xenobiologists it produces and attracts. It was first founded by former associates of the Smithsonian Museum of Natural History.

The Outer Colonies

Colonial Mars

Future Old Glory
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dassuperpenguin39 Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2014
The national flag and the flag for the planet Omaha are my favorites. Oh also, Atlantis is missing the 't' in its name, just so you know.
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the1smjb Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2013

Firstly, is that "2066" underneath the Federal flag the date??? Holy crap, is FTL invented tomorrow in your timeline?

 

Speaking of FTL, this whole thing assumes that it exists--along with some sort of antigravity and/or reactionless drive--and is hella quick; after all, a colony isn't going to remain part of the US if it takes twenty years to get a message back and forth. Not to mention the whole concept of importing beef from another star system--rocket fuel is expensive, so obviously they're using something other than that.

 

As for planets orbiting opposite each other (in the same orbit, I presume that means), that's not exactly the most stable of formations. It would be better for them to be a double-planet or two planets in the habitable zone of the same star or something.

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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Its invented in the 2030s (I'm not as optimistic these days.)
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:iconthe1smjb:
the1smjb Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013
That's 25 planets (not including Mars and, obviously, Earth) that have to be colonized and have a minimum of one state apiece (with a minimum population of 60,000 people per state) admitted to the union in thirty years--we're talking an emigration rate of, at an extreme minimum, fifty thousand people a year. Where is this mass exodus coming from?
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:iconynot1989:
YNot1989 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
In this timeline its largely the product of people who were already displaced by climate change.
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:iconthe1smjb:
the1smjb Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2013

So the colonies are being saddled with shipload after shipload of refugees. Okay, I can buy that. But FTL technology is still brand spanking new--remember what the first generation of iPod and Xbox was like? Hell, the first steam engine probably needed to be shut down and restarted constantly, as well! FTL is magic, of course, so you can have it work however you like, but I think it would snap suspension of disbelief in half if the first starships work perfectly the first time like they were handed down to us from the archangels--if they have to do that, might I suggest finding them in some alien ruins on the moon or something? We're talking something that's not even theoretically possible here, after all--not by a long shot--and you have it happening before most of us picture us having a moon base, after all.

 

Aliens or no aliens and disaster or no disaster, I'd stretch out the time frame to a few centuries. I mean, we're talking less than thirty years between first touchdown and "present" and you have each colony having a fully-established cultural identity. Probably much less. And I noticed a map of a fully-terraformed Mars that seemed connected, which isn't happening this century.

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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Aug 21, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Like I said I'm less optimistic these days. I figure we'll having a working warp drive by mid century, but it won't be capable of encompassing the mass of an object large enough to move a sufficient number of people to make any attempt at colonization worth it.
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Kellkrull87 Featured By Owner Jul 21, 2013
If I had the choice, my top 3 would be : Lincoln, Lewis and Clark and Atlantis. 
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canuleyo Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2013
Maybe 150 years from now. Still I think this is very improbable, but works great in a sci fi novel.
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lmbednark Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2012
FAVED! I wish I was born a hundred years in the future.
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Yumaboy1814 Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2011
These flags are awsome
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:iconking-of-saturn:
King-Of-Saturn Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Could Kobe Beef really be raised on Arcadia when it's named after the Japanese city where it's raised?
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:iconynot1989:
YNot1989 Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Fair point.
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gabe-seers Featured By Owner Jan 25, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
I sincerely hope this IS the future of space exploration...and not more budget cuts and political red tape.

Anyway, lovely job on the flags :)
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Guyverman Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2011
Where are these colonies?
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:iconynot1989:
YNot1989 Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Atlantis is in Alpha Centauri, Lewis and Clark are in the Achird system, Avelon is in the Tau Ceti system, Plymouth orbits Bernard's star, Omaha is in Epsilon Eridani, Lincoln is in Groombridge, Arcadia is in Cygni, and Rhea is in Delta Pavonis.
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freodhoric Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Cool! I love the variation.

Have you tried the Rhea flag with a blue field?
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:iconynot1989:
YNot1989 Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm not planning on it, It's supposed to be similar to the flag of Washington DC, which is based on George Washington's family Coat of Arms. I'm gonna incorporate Roosevelt's and possibly Jefferson's into one as well.
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freodhoric Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
I never even knew DC had it's own flag. Obvious on reflection. I'll be interested to see those other two.
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gatemonger Featured By Owner Sep 7, 2010
sure thing. will do in the future!!!
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:iconynot1989:
YNot1989 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks for the suggestions, but just for future reference it helps if you leave that stuff on the talk page or else I get side tracked easily.
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gatemonger Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2010
have you thought of pursuing this on the wikia, with each america having a different economy? One could, for exampla, retain capitaism, another could take on edwardsian populism, another libertarian, and so-forth down the line. i dont mind populism, but i would think that some residents in your world, ie: tea party decendents, might wanna leave the planet if they could and re-form the "america as it should be" according to them on other worlds. what do you think?
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hm... Interesting. Well I am planning on doing a huge rewrite of my Second Renaissance TL that this stems from, perhaps I will include a page on the US as a whole, and at least one Page compiling the various different American interplanetary territories. Its certainly a provocative concept, and while I've considered the possibility of fringe groups forming their own worlds, I've never thought to flush it out much. Thanks.

BTW, nice touch with Edwardsian Populism :D
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gatemonger Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2010
Thanks :) you like the name? BTW, why havent you ever expanded on populism? ive done all i can on the page. i know it isnt much, and i dont know enough about the economy to predict how it will evolve. :( thats up to u, the guy who dreamed it up! my thinking is this:
-the internet will streamline a lot of economic processes, as well as decentralize a lot of stuff
-a surplus of resources thru-out the solarsystem will have an impact on the global economy likely similar to the crisis caused by spanish gold surplus from the new world
-a lot of the programs that seem necessary for populism to work, that dictated by FDR's bill of economic rights, would need a MASSIVE investment. the surplus of $ i mentioned above could likely cover this, but i dunno.
*just some stuff to think about*
-good luck with everything!
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Salidas16 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2010
Interesting concept. looks good as well.
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:iconynot1989:
YNot1989 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
thanks
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1Wyrmshadow1 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2010
Interesting. I've done a similar concept in this gallery. [link]
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:iconynot1989:
YNot1989 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hm... Interesting stuff.
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:iconynot1989:
YNot1989 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
BTW Rhea is supposed to be a hypothetical Earth-like world, not the moon of Saturn.
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Hyta Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2010
Do you think that USA will last that long?
Empires used to last for centuries, but information flow was slower back then.
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:iconynot1989:
YNot1989 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I really don't know, Britain has been going strong for about 5 centuries, Rome about the same before breaking up. Most great civilizations stop being empires after about 2 centuries depending on circumstance, but their civilizations can last for much longer. Take China, Britain, the Japanese, the Russians, the Turks, the French, only one of these is anything close to being a superpower, but they're still around after all these centuries and all are major economies or military powers. If American survives into the next century, it will be because of the decentralization of power brought on by the internet, I think this will be true of most major civilizations.
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Hyta Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2010
Borders might become irrelevant thanks to the Internet. We'll see :)
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