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Second War Between the States by YNot1989 Second War Between the States by YNot1989
This is an alternate version of my original Second American Civil War map: [link]

In 2011 Michigan becomes the first state in the Union to repeal collective bargaining rights for public employees. Michigan and Ohio follow shortly thereafter with more radical legislation that results in "Financial Marshal Law," across much of the states, breaking up private unions as well as public ones.

In 2012 Anti-Union legislation has passed in Florida, Virginia and Pennsylvania as well, destroying one of the last major sources of campaign donations for the Democratic Party, costing them the White House and the Senate.

In 2013 Herman Cain is sworn in as the 45th President of the United States. Having won with a strong backing from the most powerful business interests, Cain begins to lead the charge for more intense Union Busting. The same year the Republican controlled Congress, as well as a number of states, pass legislation that makes it more difficult for Unions to contribute to political campaigns, and strips federal employees of their collective bargaining rights.

2014: Democratic Senator Dick Durbin collapses on the Senate floor after three straight days of filibuster, resulting in the passage of the Snyder Act, which makes the policies of Michigan's 2011 budgetary law national, granting a half a trillion dollar tax break to businesses and the rich, while eliminating tax cuts for the middle class. The law also lets the President declare whole states to be in a state of Fiscal Emergency and grant powers to local officials or appointed directors to break up any local contracts (such as collective bargaining agreements), and even remove local elected officials from office. The act sparks a national outcry and after Fiscal Martial Law is declared in many states, Wisconsin secedes from the Union. Ohio follows days later and after a bloody coup in Michigan the rest of the Rust belt joins to form the American Workers Union.

2015: The Second War between the States rages on.
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IrkenConfederate Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
So, martial law . . . seeing as where the country's going in relation to California's overall political tendencies, I can see why Cain would feel threatened. But, still: damn. Guess I'm moving to Canada, or the AWU.
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Lightwolf236 Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
If this did happened, I'm high tailing to Canada.
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deviant654 Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2013
What I see is the US losing or putting under martial law almost all the places where science and technology is developed. All they are left with are the states where intellectual achievement is not particularly valued. I can see the west coast states and the red states here forming a close association with Canada.
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TheElevatedDeviant Featured By Owner May 22, 2013
10/10 would join.
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supermanfan01 Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2013
Dang it, I'm occupied by the commies! Well, I guess I better fight back to preserve the good ol' USA.
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SecretAgent632 Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
I think Europe, Russia, and/or China will likely deploy troops to America, mainly in an effort to secure America's land-based nukes.
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
They'd never get past the Navy and NORAD.
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Messenger-Of-Chaos Featured By Owner Nov 21, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'll be under martial law then. Well, into the basement I go!
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zmontoya94 Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2011
Damnit!
Martial law :(
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NucleicAcids Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2011
I have a feeling that come 2015, I'd be high-tailing it to the Cascades to join up with the nearest AWU militia.
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Zifker Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2011
Workers of America, UNITE!
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SpartanNinja141 Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2011
Can you continue this?
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PurplePhoneixStar Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
I hope this doesn't happen. I am a Civil War reenactor and the carnage was unimaginable. :iconscaredplz:
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atomicturist Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2011
Remaind me of American Civil War in Kaiserreich mod for HoI2DD. Rather improbable without disabling the government first.
As for Texans. I know quite a few, some of them quite left leaning, but all of them would never consider that Texas would ever leave the Union.
I wonder what happens next:-)
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Songofthevalley Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2011
The primary complexity of any state seceding is that not all residents of that state would agree. Would the majority who want radical government change expel/ kill the dissidents? Many are native born and property owners and for the right wing philosophies taking away their birthrights and property is a huge contradiction. Texas comes up a lot because of it's previous history as a country for a short while.
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33k7 Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2011
I honestly think the crazy left would be the first to use a nuke. But I've been around people in the crazy left who would like to impose euthanasia on people who don't think like them. But I've also heard this from the crazy right as well. But I'm pretty sure around 43% of the country is Democrats and 40% is Republican and the rest I think what side with the United States and the majority of the Democrats would to. Most Americans would like healthcare a state run health care because each state is really an individual country and the federal government can't even tell how to fix Social Security cough cough stop taking money out of it you dumb asses. I honestly think this scenario will never happen because most Americans love their way of life and will not let some dumb crazy left or right nutbags try to take all their livelihoods away martial law may be declared in some states by the year 2028 but that will just be in city areas. So nice idea but I can see it happening honestly. But I know for sure we are going to retire in are 70s not our 60s.
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Those numbers are actually lower than most people realize, the vast majority of this country is made up of independent voters.
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33k7 Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2011
Very true but Civil War is very unlikely.
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Songofthevalley Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2011
Given the political climate and the growing disparity of right and left ideals, such a scenario is possible, but I think ideology wouldn't be enough to trigger a full blown civil war. I think economic collapse would trigger the sudden dissolution of the union based on ideology. Most people, even when unhappy with new laws, will tolerate them to an extent. What pushes them over the edge is when laws or the economy can no longer help people with basic needs, like food, shelter and work.

I looked at a few of your maps. Interesting stuff!

But one criticism: No matter what the situation- Texas will always secede first.

My final thought: Time to learn how to use a sniper rifle!
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Ha ha, well I try to avoid Texas leaves the union scenarios because there's just so damn many of them.
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Songofthevalley Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2011
HA ha ha ha ha! You are completely correct about that! Should we break North and South for whatever reason, I bet 20 dollars that Texas will have the Southern Capital City. They'll insist, or secede!

I lived in Texas for two years, great birdwatching- so I am not trying to bash it.
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Mar 19, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, I got a somewhat Monomaniacal friend from Texas who constantly refers to your average Texan as "his people," and constantly references how he's been studying them for years.
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AmongTheSatanic Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2011  Hobbyist Artist
Boshoun nuckoui !!! Rise up !
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mdc01957 Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2011
So basically it's a Reverse-Civil War, except the opponents are Commies?
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Eh, more like syndicalists.
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mdc01957 Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2011
I suppose it makes sense that way. Will there be a sequel to this?
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:iconynot1989:
YNot1989 Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm contemplating doing a more complicated scenario where the US Government has collapsed and Red States and Blue states find themselves in a genuine civil war. Still working everything out though.
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mdc01957 Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2011
Can't wait for that. :D
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:iconfrazamm:
frazamm Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2011
Interesting scenario.

I am assuming that the map does not show the actual battle lines/frontlines but majority control of each state.
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Neethis Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2011
Awesome, well back-storied :)
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Party9999999 Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2011
To the barricades!
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Thejboy88 Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2011
See, this is what happens when Washington tries to impose laws like this on such wildy different states with different ideals and cultures, chaos!

Nice map by the way.
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pytko3 Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2011
So what's stopping the U.S. from using nukes against the rebels?
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:iconynot1989:
YNot1989 Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I would say, "Even Tea Party conservatives aren't THAT crazy," but I have progressively less reason to doubt that these days, so I honestly don't know.
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pytko3 Featured By Owner May 15, 2011
That's a big reason why I hate future secession or second civil war fiction. It ignores nukes.
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K-Haderach Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2011
Long live the AWU! :) I assume their capital is Chicago. They also hold New York City, but it seems to be right on the front line. Urban warfare, maybe? In any case, Wall Street finally got what it deserved.
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FieldsOfFire Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2011
Fuck yeah, Dick Durbin. He's my senator and I'd like to believe he'd be so badass.

But it's kind of funny/sad how your nightmare apocalypse sci-fi is based merely on the nationalization of a bill that was actually passed.
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Eh... more on several years of legislation being conducted on a number of states followed by it becoming federal law.

The pressure built up on the state level, but the powder keg blew once it reached the Capitol.
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IronLantern Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2011
Southern rebels, northern rebels....maybe you could try giving giving an East-Vs-West style civil war like Jericho did.
Anyway, great work and looking forward to more
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Except there is currently no major political disparity between East and West, so I really have no way to engage such a scenario and keep it grounded in the present day.
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IronLantern Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2011
I see. But hey, who knows what the future holds
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