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Europe: The Forgotten Continent by YNot1989 Europe: The Forgotten Continent by YNot1989
2110: Six decades have past since the end of the last world war, and in that time Western Europe has continued its decline. In the Intermarium, the alliance of Eastern European Nations that evolved out of the old Visigrad Group, prosperity continues, and Warsaw's grip stretches as far East as the Urals. In the South, Turkey's empire has once again faded, but the Barcelona based Mediterranean Union has filled the Vacuum to balance the ambitions of Egypt. Countries have fractured, the continent remains divided, but history has been turned on its head. Old colonies have come to claim the old countries as a new war brews across the Atlantic. Since the Islands' devastation at the hands of the Turks and the Flood, Britain has become little more than an American colony,the majority of its citizens now live on America soil. And in the Iberian peninsula the fractious era of civil wars have ended, a land stabilized by Brazilian and Mexican forces, set on securing a cultural and economic sphere across the Atlantic.

Some say it is karmic justice that Europe has become the very thing they tried to turn other countries into, puppets to the great powers of the Earth, utterly devoid of agency, and unlikely to wield any real power for many centuries to come.
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NealMan11 Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2015
Is alsace Lorraine German? If so, how was it obtained?
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't think I made it German in this TL, it should be French.
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AllVideosOwn Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2015  Student Writer
I feel like Serbians would masturbate to this map.
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Warsie Featured By Owner Edited Feb 15, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
>poland having ukrainian territories

oh, its not like this'll end up bad like the last time > : P
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Warsie Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Karma is a bitch
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Thelmo1934 Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2015
As a Portuguese is really nice look to this map =D , because the Galacia is portuguese territory. But what happens to Ireland ? join again to United Kingdom ??? And Belgium and Netherlands is german territorys ? And what Brazilians make in Portugal ? Just stabilize Portugal or occupy effectively like a conquest ?
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NealMan11 Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2015
Spain be like fuck y'all Im making my own alliance
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opidniuste Featured By Owner Jan 3, 2015
This map is offensive (-.-)
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Psychographer16 Featured By Owner Nov 28, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I certainly wouldn't want to live in a continent like this one.
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HaosPrincessFabia Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2014  Hobbyist
Why Baltic states will be Poland!? We are not so weak as we look like!!!Rage Rage Stare 
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well it wouldn't be the first time Poland controlled the Baltic. The Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth for example.
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Link91790 Featured By Owner Sep 4, 2014
Why so many people put Corsica with Italy? IF they happend to not be french Anymore they will be independant and if we let go Corsica and the basque I think Bretagne/Brittany/Breizh will also be independant 

(sorry for my bad englisj ^^" )
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ChR1sAlbo Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Cool Map! Albania looks to have its territories back :)
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bruiser128 Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
I believed that if Benito Mussolini's Italy fought with the Allies, it would have created a Mediterranean union with the Balkan counries to prevent the spread of communism.
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SweetCreeper132PL Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2014
Poland :D
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:iconass9999:
Ass9999 Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2014
Finally a hypothetical map that retains Portugal as independent! And with the bonus of its real territory. Every single other map merges Portugal to Spain, dumb.
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as-valentine Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2014
at least portugal won some new territory from spain. i wonder why though.
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Ass9999 Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2014
Galiza is culturally tied to Portugal and not to Spain. That's why the map is like this.
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as-valentine Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2014
oh i see what ur saying.
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JeffreyBuchananP Featured By Owner Aug 1, 2014
This map is not even dumb, why it has to be merged?
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:iconass9999:
Ass9999 Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2014
You did not understand my comment properly. I said the opposite. :) Take care.
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JeffreyBuchananP Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2014
Yeah, yeah, whatever....
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trodon1 Featured By Owner May 6, 2014
maybe that's the reason behind the apparent will of the europeans to sabotagem their own future time and time again...it's almost comical...and also tragic.
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menapia Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2014
Interesting map and not implausible, especially like the idea behind the Intermarium, but can't see why Serbia and Croatia are shacked up together again, or did Serbia invade again?
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's mostly just to illustrate the craziness of the Baltics.
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bcollins39302 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2014  Student Digital Artist
You mean "Balkans"?
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:iconynot1989:
YNot1989 Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
yeah sry
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bcollins39302 Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Oh, np, I was just wondering.
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Maikeru1989 Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2014   General Artist
Should point out that Europe is NOT a Continent, rather a perceived region of Eurasia (which is a continent) I'm in ur post! Shakin mah fish! 


Interesting Nightmare Future though Pat pat 
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Its called the forgotten continent to illustrate that people no longer think of Europe as a continent anymore. 
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Numan1984 Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2014
Haha, oh Switzerland, always being neutral :P
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microwavedreams Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2013
Looking back at your older maps now. Is this where your 2nd renaissance timeline redo is going? Will there eventually be a world map for this time period as well? And why did the Turks fall into decline?
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Eh, kinda. I'm probably gonna break up the continent a little differently, but the general theme is the same. There will be a world map for this period, and the Turks declined due to overburdening themselves in North Africa while they faced internal divisions at home as their population fell while local groups remained with the colonization of Space.
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duch-bag Featured By Owner Nov 22, 2013
Poland Stronk!
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GigoXXIII Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
So I'm curious, I can see how Spain has broken up given the present day strife and disscontent among the Basque and Catalans but what caused France and Italy to break up ?, Italy I can sort of see as a possibility somewhat since there is some sort of North vs South shit overthere although I don't know how strong it is. However to the best of my knowledge France doesn't have that sort of prolem or internal division and is fairly homogenious outside of its immigrant population.
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Population disparity and economic downturn. Western Europe will face severe demographic problems in the coming century, and in my scenario the Space colonies are gobbling up its increasingly small populations left right and center. The break ups are a result in the population density becoming so low that there really isn't anything holding these countries together anymore. In an upcoming Map, it will have even spread to Germany.
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GigoXXIII Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
With that information in mind the layout of the map actually makes a heck of a lot of sense now, so what colonies would the Europeans be heading to, Luna, Martian or Lagrangian point orbitals/O'Neill cylinders ?
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
By the start of the 22nd Century they're going mostly to Mars and the Jovian moons. Titan and Triton are still very early into terraforming, and Venus has placed caps on their population until they achieve a sustainable biosphere. BTW, all these territories are US territories, as you might remember from the WWIII of this timeline, upon achieving victory the US essentially bans any other power from placing military forces in space, and therefore, its kinda impossible to develop colonies for other powers. So they aren't really Europeans anymore. I got a map for the early 22nd Century that will explain a lot of this.
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GigoXXIII Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh cool, I'll be looking forward to that :)
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JacekIINowy Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2013
Very cool map and vision of the world. The idea Pilsudski was the most real and to do but to stand in his way, not only in the country but opponents especially in other countries. Polish origins of the Great War in 1918 was more than difficult. During the war with the Soviets in 1920, the Czechs kept transpoty weapon for the Poles. Does not make sense. Pa Poland they would be next. In addition, the involvement of Polish treacherously used in defense against the "red plague" and took Cieszyn. Although the majority of the inhabitants were Poles. In 1938, Poland regained what was hers.
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LSDInkvizitor Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013
Another opinions: I am surprised that Finland isn't in Nordic Union, because of cultural closeness, and Finnish people would be careful to accept some alliance, even with totally peaceful Russians. But it make sense if they just want secure Status quo, with controlled Murmansk and Karelia. Another thing, I don't think that Serbians and Greeks would ever accept Greater Albania, despite anything. They should be totally pissed off and made total overkill of Albanians in next Balcan War. 
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The Finns hated the Russians more than they loved the Nordics. They have observer status with the Nordic Union but are more closely tied militarily with the Intermarium. By the time Russia joined the Intermarium they weren't really Russia anymore; their territory only extends to the Urals and they've lost most of the Volga River basin to the Ukrainians. By this point in history Russia (now called Muscovy) is seen as a minor power with little influence outside the Intermarium. The Balkans have changed largely due to the influence of the Poles and the Turks during the last century, as they angled for control of the Med.
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LSDInkvizitor Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013
Many centuries, many empires tried to change Balkans. It's just hopeless attempt, and it always will be. ;) Serbians, Croatians, Bulgarians, Greeks would accept Intermarium dominance but they would always kept fighting Ottomans and it's allies, just like that, despite high price. 

It's even more hopeless than make Czech Rep. catholic country. Or make islam peaceful :P
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh the Blakans can't be dominated, but they can be warped around those fuzzy ethnoreligious lines that have made them the silly putty of nation-states.
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LSDInkvizitor Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013
Just a few guys managed peace there. Last one was Josip B. Tito.

It's just so really, really hard there.





(sometimes I think people in Balkan are Siths :D )
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LSDInkvizitor Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013
So, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth reborn controls destiny of Europe? :P
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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Sorta, its more serious step towards Józef Piłsudski's proposed Intermarium Federation. However, European balkanization is some of the worst in the world by this point, with most of Central Europe on the brink of utter collapse; so the future of Eastern Europe is quite uncertain.
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LSDInkvizitor Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013
I never thought Pilsudski has those ideas. He wasn't even willing to accept our claims for Cieszyn/Silesia or Lithuanian one for Vilnius. What both alienated Poland from two possible allies.


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YNot1989 Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You play the hand you're dealt. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermar…
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LSDInkvizitor Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2013
Oh, that was problem - 'under Poland's aegis'. Lithuanians and Ukrainians probably saw Polish trying to control them again so to just replace Russians. People don't like to be under anyone, and beginning of Second Rzeczpospolita didn't look so optimistic.
Even Maynard Keynes thought that Poland is political and economical nonsense, with pogroms against Jews as it's only industry. His words.
But somehow it survived until 1939 German-Soviet overkill. Somehow.


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